On this episode, I continue my tour of the Older Jewish Lesbian Circuit as Debbie Munter Gruber joins me to talk about what it was like to come out to her kids and former husband in the early 1990s at age 40, as well as to discuss our mutual admiration for one Anthony Irwin! PLUS: Music from The Cure, Echo and the Bunnymen and more! ANNNND: New audio stories from The Future Perfect Project animated series, "How Life Is: Queer Youth Animated."